Jan 19

After the recent fiasco with buying and selling text links, I wanted to make sure it was still allowed to sell banner ads. I was suprised to find out it’s not. You don’t have to worry about putting “nofollow” on your banner ads though, Google will do that automatically for you. Pretty cool, right?

I think anyone would agree that webmasters bring Google ungodly amounts of money, yet it seems like Google has grown to hate us. Google, the search engine, lives on links. They even say so and warn against a site that hordes there on traffic without linking out. They encourage you to link out. But they don’t want you to get links in!

Here is some of the shenanigans Google has pulled lately:

  • Link exchanges are bad
  • Directories that link directly to you are bad
  • Buying links is bad
  • Selling links is bad
  • Selling ads that directly link to the buyer’s site is bad
  • Giving away a program, plugin, theme or software that requires a “link” is bad

And the list goes on and on. I’m not the only one that feels this way. I work hard on my sites and I try to stay within the rules. The one on the list that probably bugs me the most is “linkware”. If I put my hard work into a software package (a forum, community site, whatever) or a theme, I should get some sort of reward. If I decide to release it as “linkware”, that’s my right. They are currently cracking down on sponsored themes, which I do get to an extent. But as a theme creator, that’s my design and in exchange for using it, I ask for a link. That’s a small token of support and helps me continue doing those kinds of things for free. I’m giving something of value and getting something of value back.

I don’t know how far they are going to take their vendetta against links, but I’m starting to lose faith in a company I used to have huge respect for, who’s motto is “don’t be evil”, who’s products I truly enjoy and tell everyone to use. I’m feeling burned and as more webmasters look for alternative sources of traffic we will influence our readers to use that source. Google is creating the tool of their own undoing. Sure, it’ll take a while, but their sewing the wrong kind of seeds. They won’t like the crop come harvest.

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16 Responses to “Does Google Hate Webmasters?”

1 Alex Says:

I think it is more along the lines of Google watching out for its users. The company doesn’t exist for Webmasters, though you are quite right in your point that Google makes a lot of money from Ad Sense. But, every one of those points you listed above is in place to ensure that the results that come back from a search are as accurate as possible. Google is serving those who search, first and foremost.

As someone who has developed a couple of plugins and various scripts and snippets over the years and released them for free, it is tempting to follow the linkware approach – it doesn’t cost the consumer anything, while it benefits me. the problem lies in the fact that enough of these packages were using the platform to game the system, that Google had to put a stop to it. Plus, all too often a script or theme would be released that was linkware, generating thousands of extra links back ot the main site, which had nothing more than a download link. So, for example, if I was searching for something related to WordPress, or PHP I may run into a few sites that are all about plugins for the platform, as they had been released as linkware, yet what I was looking for was how to build my own plugin, which would be buried.

Linkware is a neat idea, but relying on an auto-inclusion option is detrimental to the community. Instead, authors of freely released code ad themes should request a quick blog post/review of the plugin. While far fewer of these will be generated compared to automatic inclusion, they will actually prove more beneficial, as the site’s readers will notice it and the keywords surround and used within the link text will have more variety, providing a better funnel for traffic.

Note: I’ve been a Web professional for ten years now and use Ad Sense on most of my sites – this was written while I wore my user ha, not my Webmaster hat. :)

2 Why bloggers relying on Google may not be a good idea | WinExtra Says:

[...] In his post – Does Google Hate Webmasters – Chrispian outlines some of the things that Google has done recently that has had – in some cases some profound effects on bloggers: Here is some of the shenangins Google has pulled lately: [...]

3 Chrispian Says:

Alex, I totally agree that the results (SERPS) need to be as clean and spam free as possible. Some of the things Google is doing makes sense, like striking out at buying/selling text links. That’s clearly gaming the system. While some of these other things effect rankings, it’s still my hard work that did it, which is what any search engine should be rewarding. Most of the work they’ve done hasn’t hurt spammers one bit though, it’s hurt us (webasters) more. The SERPS aren’t any better because of these changes. In fact, I’d argue they are worse! Spammers have always been good at gaming the system and this didn’t even slow them down.

I understand what Google’s trying to do and with people like Matt Cutts offering solid advice to us (webmasters) so that we can rank well the right way, that shows they still do care about us. The title was admittedly written to draw people in ;) But I still think some of the changes have done more harm than good to us, and not done one bit of good against fighting spam. Google isn’t the only one fighting an uphill battle against spam either but they’ve been the most vocal about what they are doing to curb it so they get picked on the most. I pick on them because I still like them, both as a user and webmaster. Hopefully we’ll all find a happy middle ground.

4 Alex Says:

I definitely see what you’re saying, so some of my following points are along the lines of plying devil’s advocate. :)

Search engines shouldn’t just reward hard work unless that work is made up of content useful for the people searching for specific terms and phrases. A lot of the apps and themes that are/were setup as linkware didn’t have any content behind the pages that were linked to. The number one job of a search engine is indexing everything and serving the right content for the end-user.

Linkware isn’t that different from buying straight up text link ads – it’s trading a link to the site for something of value, in this case, instead of cash it’s a program. While there is nothing wrong about the trade, all too often it doesn’t result in favorable results for Google’s end-user.

The same holds true for link directories. At one time they were the best way to find useful information, but with the rise of search engines, they became less useful in comparison. When people realized that they could join a bunch of directories in order to show up higher in the rankings, Google reacted in order to ensure that the search results were useful to their users.

I think a lot of the changes that Google has done have hurt the spammers, but it is important to realize how fast the spammers change up. It doesn’t take long for them to find a new way to exploit the system, which Google has to then react to. For example, I’ve noticed in my comment spam of late, an interesting trend of linking to Google or Yahoo with the query pre-filled with a URL or very specific search terms.

Ok, I’m done blathering, and will wrap up with one thought – I think Google aims for and typically holds the middle ground that we all seek, but the changes they make to hold that spot seem jarring – change and the unknown can be scary. :)

5 Eric Atkins Says:

I’m also starting to lose faith in the company whose motto was “Don’t Be Evil”. Because of some warnings from Matt Cutts and Google, I’ve stopped selling Text Link Ads. It definitely is going to hurt the small-time web publishers – the people that think $100 a month in TLA revenue is a big deal.

6 Chrispian Says:

Eric, thanks for commenting. Yeah, I know a lot of publishers that fall into that category, including me ;) It put a big dent in a few friends I know where TLA made up at least a part of their income for their sites.

7 Alex Says:

Out of curiosity, would you say one of the biggest issues was lack of fore-knowledge of the impending change? If you had been given say a months notice that Google would start penalizing sites running Text Link Ads, would you have had enough time to find n alternative income stream and avoided the loss of page rank?

8 Chrispian Says:

I think advanced warning was given, just not flat out. They’ve been moving towards this for while and it’s always been against the guidelines. I don’t think a warning would have made any difference because everyone would probably have thought it was a bluff. And maybe it still was, because Matt even said this was a toolbar / visual PR update only, the impact was primarily to TLA and PPP.

I don’t disagree at all with the idea of them trying to improve the SERPS. If they want to stay on top of things, they have to do so. But they also need to realize they created the supply and demand themselves with PageRank having value. PageRank is now such a minor part of the algo that it’s not even important. I don’t even care about it and the only reason I look at it is for clients who are still convinced it’s important.

I’m perfectly willing to nofollow any link that might benefit me or the person I’m linking if it benefits either of us in a formal arrangement (ads, affiliate links, etc.) and leave the natural links as is (things like linking to articles, etc.) Google has already started accounting for most of that automatically and for the most part, affiliate links don’t need any link juice.

As for the idea of “linkware”, I’m also happy to nofollow that. For one, I know for a fact Google “does follow” those, they just don’t give them as much weight and perhaps doesn’t pass any PR, which is fine. I’m not trying to game the system by releasing something like that, but I am looking for a little free advertisement for the theme, plugin, or whatever and having nofollow doesn’t hurt my feelings, so I think that’s a fair deal.

Part of the problem is that one search engine is dictating how we can and can’t make money and I think that bothers me the most. They are in a position to dictate what’s allowed and what isn’t. Part of it is keeping the SERPs pure, but it’s also about protecting their own ad network (adsense) too. I have no doubt they want to make sure people keep buying ads through them vs going directly to us (webmasters) for those same ads.

I’ll continue to play by the rules because I want to. I’m in no way a black hat or even grey hat, I prefer to do things by the book and strive for great content and great relationships to help push me to the top of the list in my niches. But I’m not happy about losing a resource stream on some of my smaller blogs that don’t make much money other ways.

Again, for the record, I’m pretty happy with Google. I don’t like everything they do, but then again, I don’t like everything my friends do either, but that doesn’t mean I don’t like them.

9 Eric Atkins Says:

I agree with Chrispian. I believe the warnings were given. For ages Google has said: “Don’t participate in link schemes designed to increase your site’s ranking or PageRank.” That is the whole point of Text-Link-Ads.

I think the problems were:

1) Google didn’t actively and drastically penalize those selling TLA or linking to other sites that aren’t relevant
2) Website operators were making some income via TLA or direct sells.

If there wasn’t a market and people weren’t making money from it, then most people wouldn’t care. I mean, when you buy/sell on TLA you aren’t really wanting traffic. You are wanting backlinks without no-follow tags. If you were in it for the traffic, you’d use other services. You also want to make a quick buck.

In the mean time, people were seeing their PageRank increase via linking schemes. To them, Google wasn’t enforcing the rules while they got a high PageRank and/or earned some money on the side.

I think people are a little more aware of this now that several major blogs were recently penalized for buying/selling links.

However, I think more of the web will soon be aware. Google and Yahoo! are both experimenting with their SERP’s by filtering them with social networking data. For instance, Yahoo! is now incorporating DEL.ICIO.US bookmarking stats on their SERP’s. Google is adding a “vote” feature to their SERP pages.

I think in time, the mass public – the website visitors – will overpower the website operators power to influence the SERP’s. Regardless of how many links sold/traded on a website, the conglomeration of social web users will have the biggest impact on the SERP ranking behind the search engine algorithm.

10 Chrispian Says:

Eric, that’s a great point. I’ve been experimenting with Social traffic for a while now and it’s actually easier to influence than links! I’m sure it’ll get harder, but right now you can buy your way into top spots on most of the social sites, buy ads on them, etc. Also, just by networking like crazy you can get a ton of “friends” and they’ll start voting you up enough to rank well. Again, I’m sure as this happens more and more the social traffic tricks will get harder and harder and it’ll be back to “write great content”.

That’s the chicken and egg problem every site faces. You can write great content all day, but if no one sees it they won’t link it, digg it, vote it, promote it, stumble, tumbl it etc. lol. So its’ almost like you have to cheat the first few times to get in front of the right people but once you do, your great content will do the rest. I’ve seen a few bloggers that recently hit the big time with great content but they did so by getting the attention of a blogger higher up on the food chain who showcased that great content and propelled the new blogger to stardom. It truly is the social web, but you still (thankfully) have to write great content.

11 Alex Says:

In the vein of ‘one search engine rules the Web’ – what are viable alternatives? Obviously we know of Yahoo and MSN, but do/would you actively choose to use them as a default? Are there others on the horizon? I know of unique concepts like Mahalo or even using services like Ma.gnolia and Del.ico.us – are they feasible options?

I guess the bigger question is, should the folks who work on the Web look at the landscape and decide that things need to be balanced?

Yeah, I know this is a bit of a tangent, but it’s an interesting one.

12 Chrispian Says:

Alex, that’s a great point and something I’ve been thinking a lot about. We tend to rely on Google too much to drive our traffic and that’s our fault, not theirs. I think we should spread our net a little wider, work all the angles more. John Chow suggested that if any one source of traffic is more than 30% that you need to start working on getting traffic from other places. This way, if any one has a major shake up, it’s not that hard to replace that 30%. He said the same thing about revenue streams, which I agree with. The one thing that’s constant is that everything is always changing. As someone who makes most of his living online, being flexible is important. I’m just now really getting into alternative traffic sources.

From a user POV, having choices is also a good thing. Obviously things like del.icious, ma.gnolia, facebook, twitter, etc. have a higher concentration of power users and are used less by the mainstream population of the internet. However, those things become more accessible to everyone with each passing day. I’ve always been the “right tool for the right job” kind of person. Google doesn’t always give me what I want as I’m doing research. For news, nothing beats the meta sites (digg, netscape, reddit, etc.) or even plain old rss feeds. As a user I like having an option that suits the needs of what I’m trying to do. Google is still my favorite in terms of raw search power. The only time I’ve done a search on MSN or Yahoo is to compare results for SEO work. That said, both MSN and Yahoo have a big following. Granted no one currently comes close to Google. From a pure user stand point, I don’t think there is a viable replacement, though there are plenty of good supplemental tools. One day, maybe. But Google owns search right now. Hell, they term “google it” is becoming like kleenex for tissue and coke for soda. It’s now a verb for looking up something on a search engine. I wonder of Google had that in mind when they were coming up with names.

This would be a good discussion at sxsw!

13 ses5909 Says:

As a website publisher I have mixed feelings about the big G and their policies. I agree relevant search results are very important, but at what cost? It is us webmasters that are paying them for adwords and adsense campaigns; sometimes it seems they are the only company allowed to make money. On the other hand, they are a corporation and they have every right to make whatever rules they want. If I want my sites to rank well there, I have to play by their rules.

as for the linkware, what I do is include my link in themes I release, but they can remove them. I only put them in there (Theme provided by….). I figure some people might leave them in. On the plugins though, I haven’t included a link.

I do wonder though what comes next, will we get penalized for having blog rolls? Even if we think they are quality and relevant sites?

14 Chrispian Says:

ses, I’m pretty sure we are already getting silently penalized for blogrolls, along with ads that direct link in standard sizes and things like that.

I’m with you on the linkware, when I have done stuff like that I always make the link optional. I’m working on some free themes for WP now and will be making them linkware, but it will be optional and I’ll include the nofollow on my link, just in case.

It’s almost like we can only link inside a post, but we know that’s the easiest place to hide a paid link. TLA is moving more and more towards those kinds of links, as are other publishers.

15 Eric Atkins Says:

I’m with you Alex. I think in the past I found content via a search engine. Even in the recent past, Google was the key way to searching the web.

But now I find content from other places. For instance, I find most of my content via social services – overwhelming majority being from my RSS reader. This is the new content related to topics that I’m interested in (Gadgets, Web 2.0, Huntsville, politics, etc.). Stuff that I like and want to know more about. This info generally
comes from weblogs. And is very fresh to the web – literally just published to the web.

I also find new content through Reddit and Digg (yuck). This content is usually stuff that would otherwise be off my radar yet is interesting (viral videos, techmeme’s, odd news, etc.). This content is a mix of fresh and old content (BTW: most of the old content on these kinds of sites are static. Also, a large percentage of it is media — digital images or archive data).

Most all of that content (from my RSS reader or social aggregating sites like Reddit or Digg) comes to me automatically. That is, I tell iGoogle, Google Reader, or my personal aggregators to bring that content to me. In the case of Reddit or Digg, someone else (the social community) does the work for me, links to the story, and then I’ll eventually find it.

Still, most all of that content recently created – very fresh to the web.

Here’s my point:

When I actively go out and search for new content, I try to consider the age of the content in which I’m searching. That will give me a clue as to where to go to look for the most accurate result and for the most informative result.

If I think something is not fresh the web (I don’t know, maybe over 12 months old), I’ll almost exclusively use Google to try to locate my information.

But it is something that is fresh to the web or if it is something that I think may have at one time made it “big” on a popular community driven site (like del.icio.us or Reddit), I may try to go back to those sites to find the new content versus going through Google.

So, I think web content creators should consider WHEN they want people to discover their content – not just HOW. I think we all know what link bait is. We know that some articles are written just to get on Digg or Reddit or social media sites.

Look at Smashing Magazine. Their articles are really informative and creative. But, they are surfing on the Digg wave and the “fresh web”. Are their stories really going to be that relevant years from now? Since their content deals with the web today, I doubt they will consider how much the web changes in just a few years. You go to Smashing to learn about the web today.

I think in some cases, we should consider writing for prosperity. But, we’ll have to put faith in Google and the major search engines to not discriminate against the age of content (BTW: look at all the great blogs that have date stamps in their URI). If Google and Yahoo! start experimenting with blog results in the SERPs and social media links (like Yahoo! is doing with del.icio.us in their SERPs) does this dilute the PageRank that old content has the web?

I’m still processing all this.

Quick. Let’s write a thesis on this. It might make it on Digg!

16 chrispian Says:

Eric, I agree also. The only time I hit search engines, Google in particular, I’m actively searching for a specific bit of information, usually some bit of code or documentation. Search is ideal for that. The social web is more passive searching. I’m finding stories and news that I didn’t know I was looking for. They really are two very different things, but they seem to be getting closer together. With the ability to search popular social sites for content we are getting to a place where we don’t have to totally rely on search engines.

This would indeed be excellent dig bait! Especially if it was a list ;)

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